On this show Dr. Gloria Horsley and Dr. Heidi Horsley discuss with Lilly Juliian bereaved parent/spouse and founder of COPE and her partner Jerry Winestock bereaved spouse about their book Grief Quest and their retreats and camps that have inspired thousands of individuals and families to find hope and healing. Jerry is also the author of Joy Ride. Dr’s Gloria and Heidi and then joined by Music therapist Stefan Benkowski. Stefan talks about the healing power of music and closes the show singing Morning Has Broken.